keepin' it simple . . .

As mentioned, the following is the interview I did with Andy (aka: Today's Man) from Keep It Clear. For those not in the know, these dudes hail from Vancouver, BC and play straight forward hardcore, akin to Floorpunch, Ten Yard Fight, and Right Brigade. It's hard, fast and uncompromisingly straight edge! Now you know the fuckin' deal.

Obligatory first question, who is in Keep It Clear? I know you've got a slightly different line up now than when you started.

We've been through a few members but currently Keep it Clear is Dave on guitar, Aram on guitar, Motor on drums, Carl on bass and I yell into the mic and aim to entertain.

For those out there not familiar with "THE DEAL", could you elaborate a little more?

While it's also the same title as the Brotherhood song, "The Deal"- our deal, is that Keep It Clear is a straight edge band. We take this shit seriously in our approach.

KIC - Viaduct - RainFest '08

I've found as I've gotten older, straight edge actually has become more important to me. Has what straight edge means to you changed at all over time? Now versus when you first got into it, and if so, how?

Well I grew up in the suburbs on skateboarding and punk rock but didn't claim edge till I was 22 probably because I didn't get more into hardcore until I was about 19. I was a victim of the same peer pressures that most kids face. I started smoking cigarettes when I was 13 and didn't quit till I was about 21. I was smoking pot and drinking within my first week of high school and kept those activities up until I was 22. Prior to quitting smoking and drinking I discovered the Vancouver hardcore scene and was influenced by some of the postitive lifestyles I found in some people that i met. I was growing bored of getting drunk and high and a drug free life made so much sense to me. After waking up one morning after a night of heavy drinking I decided that enough was enough, and I decided I was going to quit alcohol and drugs for good. I haven't looked back since. I'm 29 now and coming up on 7 years edge in May. I honestly think its the best decision I've ever made in my life and I feel it only grows with age. I work in construction and there's not too many people I meet that don't drink but then again, outside of hardcore I meet even less people who don't drink. I've found usually people who are off the sauce are recovering alcoholics or religious. I am neither. It's such a social norm to drink, but I'd rather have a clear head 110 percent of the time. What straight edge means to me hasn't changed all that much over time because I made the choice at a mature age after I had experienced enough of life with drinking and drugs. I was at the point in my life where I needed the change and since then I feel like I've always been keen on the edge. If anything its the strongest it's ever been. I am a rock.

I know back when you were in Get The Most, you did a weekend with The First Step. Did anything bizarre or ghostly happen on that trip?

Hahaha. Well John, it is very eerie that you should ask about any bizarre or ghostly activity on that trip because I did indeed see a ghost driving a car in NYC in the early AM. You can ask Bubs, he's my witness. Everyone else was passed out in the van. Anyways, Get The Most was on our way to stay with a friend in Brooklyn and we had just finished playing in Connecticut. I think we had just dropped someone off at the airport and some of us were just delirious. I remember Aram calling our friend in Brooklyn to get directions but the directions must've been pretty shitty because we just kept circling the whole city for like 2 hours. I wasn't driving or too overly concerned about the matter as i was in a back seat enjoying some late night Kyle Deville comedy. If you know him than you know he is just hilarious. Anyways, I think Aram was getting pretty pissed off on the phone with our potential host for the bogus directions, but I just happened to gaze out the window and noticed a car driving beside us but NO ONE WAS DRIVING IT! I told Kyle and he saw it too. We couldn't believe our eyes. The Big Apple is a wild place!

The First Step/Get The Most East Coast Weekend

I think as hardcore ages, there are more people sticking with it further into adulthood. Hardcore and punk has always been a youth oriented style of music, but it seems now more than ever, not only are people sticking around longer, but not feeling as they don't have to compromise their beliefs because their in their late 20's/early 30's. At 29, do you ever feel that you're out of touch with what's going on currently or that it affects your work and social life negatively?

Good question, especially about hardcore affecting my work or social life negatively. I'll get to answering that after though. When youre talking about being out of touch with what's going on currently, are you talking about life outside of hardcore? I mean some of my friends are married, with kids, and have a mortgage or two. I guess I'm not there yet as I'm still collecting old hardcore tees and pre ordering records. still watching items on ebay, contemplating spending stupid amounts....but is this what youre talking about? or do you mean out of touch as far as hardcore goes, being an older dude? Cause I think I'm pretty on my game with new bands I'm into and what not.

As far as hardcore affecting my work or social life negatively, I think it has definitely affected my work life because I don't identify with a lot of people I work with. I mean, I get along with most people and am quite personable, but when it comes to topics like my own personal life choices such as straight edge or vegetarianism, i keep those things to myself. Based on past experience, it seems to me that in too many situations, people I know outside of hardcore get on the defense when they find out I don't drink, do drugs or eat meat. They may want to either debate it or make a joke out of it and try to make me feel like less of a human because they feel awkward that i live my a different way than they do. I don't give these people my time anymore. Some people just aren't worth it.

I was mainly speaking about within hardcore. More so, how being involved in a youth dominated culture affects your adult life too, if at all. Cause like myself, you're in a bizarre place. You're almost 30 years old and you probably don't identify with most norms who are 30, and yet, how much can you identify with the culture you're immersed in that is predominately 17-22 year olds.

I find that I can actually identify with both worlds in different ways. I feel responsible because I have a career, I am getting married this fall, and I have a bright future ahead. On the other hand I am still very much involved in hardcore with playing in bands, going to shows and hanging out with my friends. I can relate just as well to a lot of people my age as I can younger hardcore kids.

KIC - Gilman - React Showcase

What does KIC have planned for 2010? You've obviously got the straight edge on lock? I would like to think you're writing new songs, anything you're trying to tackle lyrically?

For 2010 Keep It Clear plans to record a new EP, songs which are written and we've started working on as a band. I'm really amped on the new songs. More short, fast and hard. You know you don't fuck with a good recipe. I've barely started with the lyrics and don't want to talk to much about topics I'm trying to tackle lyrically in case I change my mind and scrap the idea. I do however have some ideas in mind that I'd like to try out. It's just the whole lyrics process is something that takes a bit for me to really get into before I start producing material I'm happy with. As far as touring, we don't have a lot planned other than the REACT! Showcase but I'd like to do another west coast trip. We'll see.

Two records people would be surprised such a crucial edgeman as yourself gets down with on the reg?

Um. Besides hardcore and listening to top 40's pop stations in my car, one band I'm really into is the Byrds. Everybody knows the song Turn, Turn, Turn, but I checked them out beyond that song about a year ago when I picked up their 20 essential hits cd. I was first inspired to check them out because I'm also a fan of Ride, who's Carnival of Light record has a heavy sixties psych rock feel to it. I will also say that while Carnival of Light may not be as celebrated as Ride's earlier material, I think it's a great record and very underrated. Anyways, back to the Byrds. What else is there to say? I think they're great and I can see myself digging deeper into this genre/era. I also just realized that I already named two records. The Byrds, who may be unusual to some and Ride, who I feel is not that obscure among hardcore kids.

You're vegan correct? What's your main motivation to keep up with it and do you see a point where you'd no longer live that lifestyle?

Okay. I'm not vegan. I've been Vegetarian for about 8 years and Vegan on and off. I believe in being Vegan but am currently eating eggs and cheese. I know its bullshit and contradictory to my beliefs but this is where I'm at right now. I will likely go vegan again but I don't see a reason why I will ever feel the need to start eating meat again.

Honestly I see nothing bad about only being vegetarian. In fact, if you are healthy about it, it's probably better than being a junk food vegan. This is something I think about regularly and really take issue with. A lot of time I think peoples only criteria for what they eat is just that it doesn't have animal products, with no concern about all the horrible chemicals it does have. Do you think that veganism should be more about what you ARE eating rather than just what you're NOT eating?

Veganism should definitely be about what you are eating. Being vegan, you should not only be concerned with not consuming using animal products but you should also be concerned with the environment and especially your own health.  I know that when I was vegan I was a single dude living with other roommates who were dudes. Lets just say that there was a lot of veggie dogs, burgs, rice and pasta consumed. Of course I also ate fruit and some greens too. It was super easy to be vegan but really boring and not all that healthy at the same time. I didn't enjoy cooking or really care to try my hand at it, and I was feeling pretty weak and low energy so I started eating organic eggs and cheese. I've been vegetarian for over two years since then and I feel great health wise but I battle with conviction all the time. In my heart I know I should be vegan and I am striving to be a more righteous dude. I think another conscious vegan effort is due. This time around I'm going to be more concerned with overall health and well being as well as not consuming animal products.

KIC - Gilman - React Showcase

The React showcase came and went, it was a wild time, especially the drive down there and back. What were some of your highlights of the weekend?

Man, the React! Showcase weekend was so much fun. Not only was I in total vacation mode and chillin' hard in the Bay Area with friends both old and new, but the showcase itself exceeded all expectations. I wasn't sure how many people would show up because the bill was comprised of mainly youth crew type bands, but having 7 Seconds on the bill really helped the draw of people. When they played, Gilman was jam packed with punks, skins and core kids. Every single band that played killed it. I'm not just saying this. Anyone who attended the showcase will tell you the same. Mindset were Incredible. Definitely at the top of their game and one of the best bands going in hardcore right now. True Colors were one of the greatest live acts I've ever witnessed by a hardcore band. So much energy and crowd interaction plus their frontman had all the Cappo moves to boot. ON was great and surprised everyone with 3 consecutive Bad Brains covers. The place ignited more and more with every BB song they played and bodies were diving everywhere! They played Right Brigade and the place just exploded. I love being a part of hardcore with weekends like these. I got to hang out with the Common Cause dudes and talk about Oslo and places that I've been when I was there to visit several years back. I also enjoyed the van ride with all the top Seattle/Vancouver band dudes. It's always a great time when I can hang with and enjoy the comedy of my good friend Kyle Deville.

Final thoughts, words, ideas

The new Get the Most LP is really great, you can pick it up at Revhq or from React! Records. I play guitar in a new band called Narrow View, a New York Hardcore style band out of Vancouver, BC. You can hear most of the demo on our myspace. Demo tapes are at the plant and will be available really soon. Thanks a lot for the interview. It was pretty fun. Live the life that makes you happy.

everybody loves me but you

Yo!

Topics:
1. Played a grip of shows. Some fliers to prove it.
2. Recording. New jamz.
3. Some upcoming gigs, possible tour.
4. New interview getting posted soon(ish).

1. I had an update all typed up, but found it was far too long winded, so it got scrapped. We played some shows a few weeks back. Our first since we were out East in November. Here are some of the flyers.

Oct 31 @ W. Seattle Legion Hall

Forfeit it an awesome band from the East Coast that you should check out. Vacate and Sojourner are locals that were doing their thing. Both bands were pretty good. Outbreak was . . . well, Outbreak.

Feb 6 @ Casey's house in Bham

We also played Kyle's (from Get The Most) birthday soiree in Bellingham. Keep It Clear also did their thing. Both bands sounded great and the show was a smashing success. I celebrated Kyle's birthday 3 times that week . . . and he only turned 29. I better start warming up for his 30th . . . it's sure to be a total banger!

Oh yeah, the new Get The Most LP "Together" is seriously awesome. If you dig Insted, Uniform Choice, Gorilla Biscuits, and Get The Most, there is absolutely no reason for you not to dig it.

We also played a gig on February 10th with The Helm, Defeater and All Teeth at the Fusion Cafe in the Downtown YMCA. Mad heads rolled out. It was shocking. We were shocked. All Teeth was pretty decent. Defeater is not my thing. The Helm sounded huge and their new record is crushing. It's called HOME. Hex Records from Syracuse put it out. Vinyl's hip these days, pick it up. It's also on CD for those of you not into being retro.

Ok, moving on . . . (pun intended) . . .

2. Starting this Sunday, February 28th, we are headed to Two Sticks Studio's here in Seattle to start laying down tracks for our new 7". It's going to be titled OUR CHOICES. Really looking forward to getting this moving. 5 brand new songs, lyrically all dealing with . . . you guessed it, our choices and how they affect us. Should be good.

3. We have 2 shows on March 30th and March 31st with Rotting Out. We're playing Tacoma and Bellingham on those dates. April 7th we're giggin' with Mindset, True Colors, and Common Cause. April 9th and 10th, we play the React! Showcase and then come the first week of June, if everything goes according to play, we're doing a week long tour down the West Coast with BLACK SS! When I have a better idea of the routing, I'll post it and maybe some of you can help us. It'll be their first time leaving the East Coast, so we plan on showing them an awesome time. Knowing them is to know how utterly bizarre that tour is going to be . . . seriously, unreal. Like, the opposite of real.

4. Up next we'll have an interview with Canadian sheet metal worker, smelly soap connoisseur, and ultimate edgeman, Andy Patillo (aka Today's Man) from Keep It Clear. Stay tuned, that interview is shaping up to be pretty righteous.

This is me not being long winded? Yep.

- NOT SORRY CREW '10

ps: If anyone out there has any Juliana Hatfield records that you're looking to let loose, please get in touch. Thanks.

gettin' some

When we decided to start this blog, we wanted to use it not only as a means to communicate what we as a band were doing, but also to talk about things that were important to us, interview bands/people we liked and think are important, or just post up goofy shit we find funny. Alan conducted this interview with Kyle from Get the Most back in the fall 2008 for a 2nd issue of his zine. Not being sure if a 2nd issue of his zine will be out, it's making it's way up here. Dig on these vibes.
- John


Get The Most are one of my favorite bands in the Northwest. They play a straight forward style of hardcore similar to Youth of Today and Insted. They have recorded two 7 inches and are currently working on a full length which will be released on React! Records. I did this interview with Kyle Deville in the fall of 2008.

Alan Blackman (AB) - What got you into hardcore/punk? What were some bands that had an early impact on you?

Kyle Deville (KD) - I got into hardcore through punk bands and listening to Metal as a little kid. My older cousins would play Slayer and bands like Anthrax so I knew a lot of thrash metal before I even knew what hardcore was. Bands that had an impact on me as a kid were D.R.I., Minor Threat, and Gorilla Biscuits.

AB - How did Get the Most start? Is there a show that you guys have played that stands out as a favorite?

KD - GTM started when Go It Alone and Blue Monday were on tour with each other in Summer of 2005. Kram and I wanted to do a side project for fun where we mixed up the instruments and got back to a more traditional hardcore sound which we grew up with and loved. Every show we have played has been fun as hell but Edge day in Boston 2007 was good, the last TFS show was really fun. I don't know, I don't want to pick.

AB - GTM recently played the last First Step show. What were your thoughts on that show, that band, and how they went out? Sub-question: When I told Aram I was doing an interview with you he informed me that you have a history of performing in a TFS sweat-suit. Any truth to this?

KD - TFS has been a very inspirational band for me in the last 6 years. They really believed in their message which I don't see all that much nowadays. Their live show was always so intense, it reminded me of the old videos of bands like Chain and Insted. But most of all they were/are some of the best guys I've met in hardcore and I consider them my good friends. I think they went out perfectly. Their last record was awesome so it's good to go out on a high note. Their last show was not all drawn out like some bands. It was just some of their favorite bands whom they have played with over the years. I have been known to play live in the official TFS sweats and hood. I don't front, I love TFS.

(Flyer for the last TFS show.)

AB - Would you say your lyrics have a particular focus? What do you hope people are left with after seeing your band?

KD - The lyrics focus more so on being a positive role model. I like when a band's sound can make you want to smash things but their lyrics make you want to improve your life and help people. That's kind of my inspiration. I want people to relate on some level with the issues I touch on in songs and be able to understand where I am coming from. I hope when people leave after we play live they have a smile on their face and they remember that hardcore can be fun and it doesn't have to be so serious.

AB - Let's go the High Fidelity route and do some top 5 lists:

KD -
Top 5 7"s
1. NY Crew - Judge
2. True Till Death - Chain of Strength
3. What Holds Us Apart - Chain of Strength
4. We'll Make The Difference - Insted
5. Can't Close My Eyes - Youth of Today

Top 5 12"s
1. We're Not In This Alone - Youth of Today
2. Break Down The Walls - Youth of Today
3. Bringin' It Down - Judge
4. Out Of Step - Minor Threat
5. Can I Say - Dag Nasty

AB - What are some experiences that have stuck with you from touring? Do you look at doing a band differently after doing shows on the road?

KD - Touring can be really hard, really expensive and tiring. In the end you can feel like you did nothing more than drive around the country to play for 20 kids a night. But it's also the most fun you will ever have, with some of your best friends at your side along the way. It's an opportunity to see the world and do what you love at the same time. I look at doing GTM differently than how I look at Blue Monday because with BM we tried really hard, we put 100% into playing as much as we could and we tried to do as much as possible. With GTM we don't try to do anything, but play a show every month or two and have 20 minutes of pure adrenaline infused fun.

AB - Are there plans for recording any time soon?

KD - We are going to get back in the studio and bust out a new LP hopefully in winter 2008. It will be about 10 songs and I am looking forward to it.

(Get The Most at Gilman St. Photo by Todd Polluck)

AB - How does fronting a band compare to playing guitar in one? Was it a tough transition?

KD - It's not a tough transition, the only thing is with guitar all you need to focus on his playing tight. With singing you have to not only sing the words but also keep up without dying on the floor of exhaustion and fatigue. I think singing is much harder and to be a good frontman is something I aspire to be.

AB - If you had to choose between seeing Youth of Today play the Anthrax in '88 or seeing Morrissey on the "Viva Hate" tour, which would you pick?

KD - I thought about this one for a couple of minutes before answering and I think it's too tough of a call. I have seen Morrissey numerous times and he is No. 1 in my book, but YOT are No. 1 for all time best live hardcore group (haven't actually seen them). They were one of the first to bring sxe to the forefront and to introduce the classic youth crew vibe that has been replicated for some 20 years now.